Complexity Premia

Episode 71; From Lucky Country to Lazy Land: When the State Smothers Markets

Welcome to the Complexity Premia podcast by Coolabah Capital, a hosted by Christopher Joye, Chief Investment Officer and Portfolio Manager at Coolabah Capital, and Ying Yi, a Portfolio Management Director at Coolabah Capital. The Complexity Premia podcast strives to deconstruct modern investment problems for wholesale (not retail) participants in capital markets. You can listen on your favourite podcast app, or you can find it on Spotify, Podbean or Apple Podcasts.

 

In this episode, CJ and Ying Yi debate the rising dominance of the state over markets, arguing that Australia’s declining productivity, capital flight, and ballooning public debt reflect political choices rather than bad luck. They explore why mobile talent and capital are leaving for more competitive jurisdictions, how activist government is eroding incentives to work and innovate, and why history suggests only crisis—not consensus—forces meaningful reform.

This information is suitable for wholesale investors only and has been produced by Coolabah Capital Institutional Investments Pty Ltd ACN 605806059, which holds Australian Financial Services Licence No. 482238 (CCII). The views expressed in this recording represent the personal opinions of the speakers and do not represent the view of any other party. The information does not take into account the particular investment objectives or financial situation of any potential listener. It does not constitute, and should not be relied on as, financial or investment advice or recommendations (expressed or implied) and it should not be used as an invitation to take up any investments or investment services. Whilst we believe that the information discussed in the podcast is correct, no warranty or representation is given to this effect, and listeners should not rely on this information when making any decisions. No responsibility can be accepted by CCII to any end users for any action taken on the basis of this information. Any performance data presented on this site is pre-fees for institutional clients that negotiate custom fee rates, and these solutions are not available to retail investors. No investment decision or activity should be undertaken without first seeking qualified and professional advice. CCII may have a financial interest in any assets discussed during the podcast. Listeners in Australia are encouraged to visit ASIC's MoneySmart website to obtain information regarding financial advice and investments.

 

Episode 70: AI Capex: The Trillion-Dollar Inflation Time-Bomb

Welcome to the Complexity Premia podcast by Coolabah Capital, hosted by Christopher Joye, Chief Investment Officer and Portfolio Manager at Coolabah Capital, and Ying Yi, a Senior Portfolio Management Director at Coolabah Capital. The Complexity Premia podcast strives to deconstruct modern investment problems for wholesale (not retail) participants in capital markets. You can listen on your favourite podcast app, or find it on Spotify, Podbean or Apple Podcasts.

In this episode, Chris and Ying Yi unpack the macro consequences of the AI build-out, exploring how the multi-trillion-dollar data-centre capex boom, rising memory costs, and U.S. reshoring are reshaping inflation, credit markets, and central-bank policy. They also assess why AI-exposed sectors like management consulting are expanding—not contracting—as AI augments human productivity.

This information is suitable for wholesale investors only and has been produced by Coolabah Capital Institutional Investments Pty Ltd ACN 605806059, which holds Australian Financial Services Licence No. 482238 (CCII). The views expressed in this recording represent the personal opinions of the speakers and do not represent the view of any other party. The information does not take into account the particular investment objectives or financial situation of any potential listener. It does not constitute, and should not be relied on as, financial or investment advice or recommendations (expressed or implied) and it should not be used as an invitation to take up any investments or investment services. Whilst we believe that the information discussed in the podcast is correct, no warranty or representation is given to this effect, and listeners should not rely on this information when making any decisions. No responsibility can be accepted by CCII to any end users for any action taken on the basis of this information. Any performance data presented on this site is pre-fees for institutional clients that negotiate custom fee rates, and these solutions are not available to retail investors. No investment decision or activity should be undertaken without first seeking qualified and professional advice. CCII may have a financial interest in any assets discussed during the podcast. Listeners in Australia are encouraged to visit ASIC's MoneySmart website to obtain information regarding financial advice and investments.

Episode 69: The Hybrid Market Shake-Up; Global Shifts; and What’s Next for Aussie Investors?

Welcome to the Complexity Premia podcast by Coolabah Capital, a hosted by Christopher Joye, Chief Investment Officer and Portfolio Manager at Coolabah Capital, and Ying Yi, a Senior Portfolio Management Director at Coolabah Capital. The Complexity Premia podcast strives to deconstruct modern investment problems for wholesale (not retail) participants in capital markets. You can listen on your favourite podcast app, or you can find it on Spotify, Podbean or Apple Podcasts.

In this episode, Chris and Ying Yi explore the decline of Australia’s $38.8 billion listed hybrid market and the global implications, including New Zealand’s proposal to phase out hybrid securities and the controversial Credit Suisse hybrid write-off. They discuss the risks and conflicts inherent in hybrid structures, the impact of APRA's decision to phase out bank hybrids, and the emerging alternatives in the market, highlighting the broader implications for both investors and financial stability.

This information is suitable for wholesale investors only and has been produced by Coolabah Capital Institutional Investments Pty Ltd ACN 605806059, which holds Australian Financial Services Licence No. 482238 (CCII). The views expressed in this recording represent the personal opinions of the speakers and do not represent the view of any other party. The information does not take into account the particular investment objectives or financial situation of any potential listener. It does not constitute, and should not be relied on as, financial or investment advice or recommendations (expressed or implied) and it should not be used as an invitation to take up any investments or investment services. Whilst we believe that the information discussed in the podcast is correct, no warranty or representation is given to this effect, and listeners should not rely on this information when making any decisions. No responsibility can be accepted by CCII to any end users for any action taken on the basis of this information. Any performance data presented on this site is pre-fees for institutional clients that negotiate custom fee rates, and these solutions are not available to retail investors. No investment decision or activity should be undertaken without first seeking qualified and professional advice. CCII may have a financial interest in any assets discussed during the podcast. Listeners in Australia are encouraged to visit ASIC's MoneySmart website to obtain information regarding financial advice and investments.

 

Episode 68: Making Sense of the Fixed Income Paradox; Rising Term Premia; September Market Rally; Aussie Economic Outlook

Welcome to the Complexity Premia podcast by Coolabah Capital, hosted by Christopher Joye, Chief Investment Officer and Portfolio Manager at Coolabah Capital, and Ying Yi, a Portfolio Management Director at Coolabah Capital. The Complexity Premia podcast strives to deconstruct modern investment problems for wholesale (not retail) participants in capital markets. You can listen on your favourite podcast app, or you can find it on Spotify, Podbean or Apple Podcasts.

In this new flash episode of the Complexity Premia podcast, Chris and Ying Yi unpack the paradox facing investors today: tight corporate credit spreads against the backdrop of historically high bond yields. They explore how this dynamic is reshaping opportunities across global debt markets, the shifting balance of risk between governments and corporates, and what it all means for returns. The discussion also delves into September’s market rally, Australia’s inflation outlook, and how population growth and housing trends could shape the nation’s economic future.

This information is suitable for wholesale investors only and has been produced by Coolabah Capital Institutional Investments Pty Ltd ACN 605806059, which holds Australian Financial Services Licence No. 482238 (CCII). The views expressed in this recording represent the personal opinions of the speakers and do not represent the view of any other party. The information does not take into account the particular investment objectives or financial situation of any potential listener. It does not constitute, and should not be relied on as, financial or investment advice or recommendations (expressed or implied) and it should not be used as an invitation to take up any investments or investment services. Whilst we believe that the information discussed in the podcast is correct, no warranty or representation is given to this effect, and listeners should not rely on this information when making any decisions. No responsibility can be accepted by CCII to any end users for any action taken on the basis of this information. Any performance data presented on this site is pre-fees for institutional clients that negotiate custom fee rates, and these solutions are not available to retail investors. No investment decision or activity should be undertaken without first seeking qualified and professional advice. CCII may have a financial interest in any assets discussed during the podcast. Listeners in Australia are encouraged to visit ASIC's MoneySmart website to obtain information regarding financial advice and investments.

 

Episode 67: From the RBA to the Fed: Policy, Politics, and the Hunt for Yield

Welcome to the Complexity Premia podcast by Coolabah Capital, hosted by Christopher Joye, Chief Investment Officer and Portfolio Manager at Coolabah Capital, and Ying Yi, a Portfolio Management Director at Coolabah Capital. The Complexity Premia podcast strives to deconstruct modern investment problems for wholesale (not retail) participants in capital markets. You can listen on your favourite podcast app, or you can find it on Spotify, Podbean or Apple Podcasts.

In this new flash episode of the Complexity Premia podcast, Chris and Ying Yi dissect the RBA’s recent rate cut and its ripple effects on housing, productivity, and fiscal policy, before turning to the US where Trump’s tariffs, Fed easing, and central bank independence dominate the debate; rounding out with a deep dive into the hunt for yield, we compare hybrids, bonds, and equities, stressing the trade-offs between risk, return, and the often-underestimated value of liquidity.

This information is suitable for wholesale investors only and has been produced by Coolabah Capital Institutional Investments Pty Ltd ACN 605806059, which holds Australian Financial Services Licence No. 482238 (CCII). The views expressed in this recording represent the personal opinions of the speakers and do not represent the view of any other party. The information does not take into account the particular investment objectives or financial situation of any potential listener. It does not constitute, and should not be relied on as, financial or investment advice or recommendations (expressed or implied) and it should not be used as an invitation to take up any investments or investment services. Whilst we believe that the information discussed in the podcast is correct, no warranty or representation is given to this effect, and listeners should not rely on this information when making any decisions. No responsibility can be accepted by CCII to any end users for any action taken on the basis of this information. Any performance data presented on this site is pre-fees for institutional clients that negotiate custom fee rates, and these solutions are not available to retail investors. No investment decision or activity should be undertaken without first seeking qualified and professional advice. CCII may have a financial interest in any assets discussed during the podcast. Listeners in Australia are encouraged to visit ASIC's MoneySmart website to obtain information regarding financial advice and investments.

 

Tariff Trades & Shark Tales - Guest Appearance on Without Boundaries

In this episode, Christopher Joye (Chief Investment Officer, Coolabah Capital) made a guest appearance on Without Boundaries, a podcast from Russell Investments (released on 8 July 2025) and hosted by Jon Eggins. Chris discusses how he successfully traded the Trump administration’s rollout of reciprocal tariffs, how Coolabah combines technology and people to exploit bond mispricings in the search for alpha, and how he once saved a surfer from a bull shark using a search-and-rescue drone.

Don't forget to check out the original podcast on Spotify:

Without Boundaries | Podcast on Spotify

The views expressed in this recording represent the personal opinions of the speakers and do not represent the view of any other party. The information does not take into account the particular investment objectives or financial situation of any potential listener. It does not constitute, and should not be relied on as, financial or investment advice or recommendations (expressed or implied) and it should not be used as an invitation to take up any investments or investment services. Whilst we believe that the information discussed in the podcast is correct, no warranty or representation is given to this effect, and listeners should not rely on this information when making any decisions. No responsibility can be accepted by Coolabah Capital Institutional Investments Pty Limited (CCII) to any end users for any action taken on the basis of this information. No investment decision or activity should be undertaken without first seeking qualified and professional advice. CCII may have a financial interest in any assets discussed during the podcast. Listeners in Australia are encouraged to visit ASIC's MoneySmart website to obtain information regarding financial advice and investments.

That Crazy Aussie Shop - Guest Appearance on Without Boundaries

In this episode, Christopher Joye (Chief Investment Officer, Coolabah Capital) made a guest appearance on Without Boundaries, a podcast from Russell Investments (released on 26 June 2025) and hosted by Jon Eggins. Chris discusses how he built a $15 billion bond shop against the odds, Coolabah’s contrarian approach to trading credit, and his deep ties to rugby in Australia and New Zealand.

Don't forget to check out the original podcast on Spotify:

Without Boundaries | Podcast on Spotify

The views expressed in this recording represent the personal opinions of the speakers and do not represent the view of any other party. The information does not take into account the particular investment objectives or financial situation of any potential listener. It does not constitute, and should not be relied on as, financial or investment advice or recommendations (expressed or implied) and it should not be used as an invitation to take up any investments or investment services. Whilst we believe that the information discussed in the podcast is correct, no warranty or representation is given to this effect, and listeners should not rely on this information when making any decisions. No responsibility can be accepted by Coolabah Capital Institutional Investments Pty Limited (CCII) to any end users for any action taken on the basis of this information. No investment decision or activity should be undertaken without first seeking qualified and professional advice. CCII may have a financial interest in any assets discussed during the podcast. Listeners in Australia are encouraged to visit ASIC's MoneySmart website to obtain information regarding financial advice and investments.

Episode 66: Middle East Tensions, Trump Tariffs & Australia's Economic Drift – Guest Appearance on Straight Talk with Mark Bouris

In this episode (released on 1 July 2025), Christopher Joye (Chief Investment Officer, Coolabah Capital), made a return guest appearance on the Straight Talk with Mark Bouris podcast to discuss Chris’ outlook on trade developments since April - back when Trump first rattled markets with his tariff threats.

Chris discusses Trump’s unpredictable economic plays, Coolabah’s bond trading strategy, and how quantitative models are being used to read the chaos. There’s no avoiding the geopolitical tension in the Middle East — or the Elon Musk/Trump rift and the impact on US central bank decisions. Chris and Mark dive into Australia’s productivity problem, housing market stress, and the recent NSW budget. And finally, a straight-up conversation on tax reform, the state of leadership in this country, and Australia’s financial future.

Credit: Straight Talk with Mark Bouris.

Don't forget to check out the original podcast on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4h9vxr4EZvw9wnUxw7Xfd0?si=rzmjDHBlRo22DxAC822l5g 

The views expressed in this recording represent the personal opinions of the speakers and do not represent the view of any other party. The information does not take into account the particular investment objectives or financial situation of any potential listener. It does not constitute, and should not be relied on as, financial or investment advice or recommendations (expressed or implied) and it should not be used as an invitation to take up any investments or investment services. Whilst we believe that the information discussed in the podcast is correct, no warranty or representation is given to this effect, and listeners should not rely on this information when making any decisions. No responsibility can be accepted by Coolabah Capital Institutional Investments Pty Limited (CCII) to any end users for any action taken on the basis of this information. No investment decision or activity should be undertaken without first seeking qualified and professional advice. CCII may have a financial interest in any assets discussed during the podcast. Listeners in Australia are encouraged to visit ASIC's MoneySmart website to obtain information regarding financial advice and investments.

Episode 65: Musk–Trump Fallout; RBA to Continue Cutting Rates; Portfolio Performance

Welcome to the Complexity Premia podcast by Coolabah Capital, hosted by Christopher Joye, Chief Investment Officer and Portfolio Manager at Coolabah Capital, and Ying Yi, a Portfolio Management Director at Coolabah Capital. The Complexity Premia podcast strives to deconstruct modern investment problems for wholesale (not retail) participants in capital markets. You can listen on your favourite podcast app, or you can find it on Spotify, Podbean or Apple Podcasts.

In this new flash episode of the Complexity Premia podcast, Chris and Ying Yi unpack the fallout from Musk’s attack on Trump’s budget; the US fiscal outlook and implications for markets; how global disinflation, trade wars, and RBA rate cuts intersect; and Coolabah’s portfolio moves in May.

This information is suitable for wholesale investors only and has been produced by Coolabah Capital Institutional Investments Pty Ltd ACN 605806059, which holds Australian Financial Services Licence No. 482238 (CCII). The views expressed in this recording represent the personal opinions of the speakers and do not represent the view of any other party. The information does not take into account the particular investment objectives or financial situation of any potential listener. It does not constitute, and should not be relied on as, financial or investment advice or recommendations (expressed or implied) and it should not be used as an invitation to take up any investments or investment services. Whilst we believe that the information discussed in the podcast is correct, no warranty or representation is given to this effect, and listeners should not rely on this information when making any decisions. No responsibility can be accepted by CCII to any end users for any action taken on the basis of this information. Any performance data presented on this site is pre-fees for institutional clients that negotiate custom fee rates, and these solutions are not available to retail investors. No investment decision or activity should be undertaken without first seeking qualified and professional advice. CCII may have a financial interest in any assets discussed during the podcast. Listeners in Australia are encouraged to visit ASIC's MoneySmart website to obtain information regarding financial advice and investments.

 

Episode 64: Hedging April Trade War Chaos; Buying $4bn After Bad News Became Priced; Biggest Opportunities Ahead

Welcome to the Complexity Premia podcast by Coolabah Capital, hosted by Christopher Joye, Chief Investment Officer and Portfolio Manager at Coolabah Capital, and Ying Yi, a Portfolio Management Director at Coolabah Capital. The Complexity Premia podcast strives to deconstruct modern investment problems for wholesale (not retail) participants in capital markets. You can listen on your favourite podcast app, or you can find it on Spotify, Podbean or Apple Podcasts.

In this new flash episode of the Complexity Premia podcast, Chris and Ying Yi discuss why Coolabah was extremely bearish heading into April, predicting large equity losses; why the team hedged 15-25% of all its credit risk through to 9 April; why they cut all hedges on this day and went aggressively long, buying over $4bn of bonds thereafter; and what the outlook in this new uncertain world looks like.   

This information is suitable for wholesale investors only and has been produced by Coolabah Capital Institutional Investments Pty Ltd ACN 605806059, which holds Australian Financial Services Licence No. 482238 (CCII). The views expressed in this recording represent the personal opinions of the speakers and do not represent the view of any other party. The information does not take into account the particular investment objectives or financial situation of any potential listener. It does not constitute, and should not be relied on as, financial or investment advice or recommendations (expressed or implied) and it should not be used as an invitation to take up any investments or investment services. Whilst we believe that the information discussed in the podcast is correct, no warranty or representation is given to this effect, and listeners should not rely on this information when making any decisions. No responsibility can be accepted by CCII to any end users for any action taken on the basis of this information. Any performance data presented on this site is pre-fees for institutional clients that negotiate custom fee rates, and these solutions are not available to retail investors. No investment decision or activity should be undertaken without first seeking qualified and professional advice. CCII may have a financial interest in any assets discussed during the podcast. Listeners in Australia are encouraged to visit ASIC's MoneySmart website to obtain information regarding financial advice and investments.